David Richards- Mastering the Mind

Interview with David Richards 01_15_21

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[00:00:28] Mike: [00:00:28] Everybody welcome back to Java chat. This is coffee with Mike and I get to sit down and chat with a very, very interesting gent, who was a former Marine and is now like, I don’t know if you want to call it a one 80, but he has definitely changed from what you would expect a Marine to be. To what he is now, now.

[00:00:50] So, this is going to be real interesting guys. Just hang in there and listen to this. We get, we get Dave David, Robert. Thanks, man. For joining me on Java Chat

[00:01:00] David Richards: [00:01:00] Richards, but happy to be here. 

[00:01:02] Mike: [00:01:02] Awesome. Awesome. So first off, thank you for your service. Really appreciate you having served and putting in the time and putting in the sacrifice.

[00:01:12] That in and of itself must have been an adventure. I mean, you were, you were an officer, correct?

[00:01:15] David Richards: [00:01:15] I was, yeah, it, it w it was, but I grew up in the Marines too. So it was kind of like an extension of my life. Professionally. Like I, like I moved from, I was born in the Marine Corps. My dad was a Marine, and moved around a bit and then went to college and just decided I didn’t have, I didn’t have a, really a plan.

[00:01:33] And so the Marine Corps helped paid for school. And so it was like, all right, I’m gonna join the Marines.

[00:01:38] Mike: [00:01:38]  Sweet. That’s spoken just like Marine too. That’s right. This is what it is. This is what happened. That’s how it went. That’s the debrief. That’s awesome. Oh, where’d you attend college? 

[00:01:51] David Richards: [00:01:51] I would try to stay 

[00:01:52] Mike: [00:01:52] nice.

[00:01:53] Okay, cool. Okay, good. Yep. Good school. what was it like being in the Marines? I mean, was it, was it a sense of my dad was I am, or did it really just become as a, as a matter of, well, you know, there’s some help help here. I’ll just go and see what happens or what do you mean? 

[00:02:13] David Richards: [00:02:13] No, it actually started out quite differently than that, because growing up.

[00:02:18] I hate, like I resented the Marine Corps because we moved and this was decades before Facebook and texting and instant messaging. And so it was very disruptive for me to like, make good friends with people and then say, okay, we’re never going to, and not really process it, but like, by we’re going to the other side of the country now, or whatever, and not fully processed, we’re never going to see each other again.

[00:02:45] This is it just, it doesn’t matter, like everything that we’ve said like about like being best friends forever or whatever, it doesn’t matter because yeah. It’s gone. Yeah. And so like in the regular, like, as I got older and became a teenager, it was just, that was my answer. That that’s what got me into heavy metal, like Motley crew and all this stuff.

[00:03:03] And, in college it was okay. If you get an academic scholarship grade. If not, you can get a job cause you’re gonna pay for half of school or you can join the military. And do you see? And so it was kind of like, okay, I’ll do military, but I’m not going to do the Marines. And so I was going to do the Navy.

[00:03:23] I was gonna join the Navy. I did Navy ROTC first. My college roommate was my best friend from high school, same kind of story, Marine dad. He was going to do the army. And like after a semester master, we’re both kind of like. Hard. Like the Navy is mechanical engineering and it’s like, yeah. Stuff. And there’s a lot.

[00:03:44] Mike: [00:03:44] I was like, what else? No, I don’t think, I don’t think people really understand or appreciate what the 

[00:03:48] David Richards: [00:03:48] Navy does. No, they really don’t. And those guys, but so for me, so it wasn’t going to be, it was gonna be the Navy. It was going to the army for my buddy. And then it was like, wait, I can’t like this. Isn’t for me to the Marines.

[00:04:01] And it was kind of be like, well, I’m a legacy. Like dad is like a career Marine and he’s been in for like, at that point 25, 26 years or something. Wow. And I got denied. Like my application wasn’t accepted. Yeah. It wasn’t like my, my grades weren’t good enough. My physical fitness wasn’t good enough. And it was a big wake up call for me, but like that stuff mattered.

[00:04:21] And so I, like, I kind of, I stopped partying and like I just focused on school and, and my fitness and, and like, after a year I got, I reapplied, I got in and then it was like this fire burning inside of me. And of course, for, for Marine Corps officers, The kind of the first crucible you go through is officer candidate school.

[00:04:41] Oh yeah. And that’s like, that’s a, ballbuster like, that is real. And like the attrition rate, I don’t know, it was like 20% or something, but it’s hard. Like it’s super hard. It’s super, psychologically hard, physically demanding. and you get through that and then you’re like, I can do anything. so, so finish Penn state, get into, get into the Marine Corps.

[00:05:03] Got into artillery, which is kind of something I wanted. I wanted to do something combat arms. Cause my dad has been in Vietnam as an infantry men, infantry, platoon commander. and then I got to a unit and the unit was already getting ready to deploy. Wow. So the Marine Corps, they, they joined with the Navy and they have these things called Marine expeditionary units.

[00:05:23] And they go out from either the coast to the West coast. And it’s basically like a police officer patrolling the world. And so like for us, so you’re doing all this training. You’re doing crazy, like dropping out of the helicopters, like rubber boats in the water and land on beaches all over the place.

[00:05:41] And then you go and you actually get on the ship for six months and we’re supposed to go to like Singapore. And then I think we’re going to go to Kuwait at some point, we’re supposed to go to Australia in the back of the Singapore. Well, we go to Singapore. And then we got diverted to Somalia and we started operation restore hope back in 1992.

[00:05:58] Wow. Like I was one of the first 30 or 40 Marines shore sheath. And so you’re doing this stuff and like you’re 23 years old or 24 or something. You’re like this isn’t, this is amazing. Like, I’m on like the pointy edge of the spear doing stuff. But then like, you know, so I, like, I used to write in high school, I had some stuff published.

[00:06:19] I got poetry that won awards and stuff. English major in college, but like, didn’t see a connection between that and the Marine Corps. And so I just focused on being a Marine, not necessarily realizing that, like, all I had done was take the misery that I had. Like I had put on myself kind of in how I looked at moving around as a kid.

[00:06:38] And now as you’re getting paid to do that. And so like, it was kind of cherry at me. And like, I didn’t, like, I kind of held poetry back and writing bags for about 10 years in the Marine Corps. And then I had a boss who painted. And that was like this revolutionary thing for me. And so like I started writing again probably about 2001, 2002.

[00:06:55] Mike: [00:06:55] That’s that’s something else, because if you, if you think about it, how often has that kind of creativity actually been inspired by engagements of that sort? I mean, how many poems have been written over war? How many poems have been written over battles and things of that nature? 

[00:07:20] David Richards: [00:07:20] And Oh yeah. Yeah. I remember I still have a copy of it on my computer.

[00:07:26] The first thing I wrote, because I remember we were talking like, I mean, it was cool because like my boss was a full bird Marine Corps, Colonel. So. Yeah, he’d done like 20 something years before that had been a Boston police officer, like a street cop. So, I mean, like, just as cool, like nose heavy, new thing, new England accent, the fact that you painted, like, it was this bond that he and I shared, like we could talk with, like, I was a company commander who was battalion commander.

[00:07:51] So there were like four others of me, but they were all different backgrounds. So it was like something for us to connect on. And I remember there was this TV show about Helen of Troy. No, we were talking about it. It was like, Oh, it’s going to be some drama soap, opera thing. And it’s not going to talk about Achilles.

[00:08:06] Cause like Achilles is like the really.

[00:08:10] Mike: [00:08:10] Yep. 

[00:08:11] David Richards: [00:08:11] First thing I wrote, like in 2000 or 2001 was a poem on Achilles. And I remember I sent it off to somebody. I was like buying, like these little Spartan helmets from this store in Greece. And so I got to know the guy like I was buying from. And at some point I sent him the poem.

[00:08:29] And it was so cool. Cause he’s like, this is the best thing on Achilles I’ve ever written. I’ve ever read and it’s written by an American, like that’s so cool. But yeah, like it was, no, it was, it was a very different experience because no one, like none of my friends in the Marines were writing poetry or anything like that.

[00:08:45] So yeah. 

[00:08:48] Mike: [00:08:48] So you got out when? 2006 Oh six. Okay. Okay. What happens next?

[00:08:59] David Richards: [00:08:59] It was a big revelation for me because, you know, I kept, I’d been divorced. I had a daughter and, but I was kind of repeating, I was still making the same mistakes cause I hadn’t really learned the lessons. And so I was still moving and you know, my goal for me when I looked at a relationship. The potential of a relationship.

[00:09:21] I didn’t look at it based on, Oh my God. She is so amazing. We have so many things in common, or we have so many things in contrast that I can learn from this person. I looked at it like I’ve got nine months left before I move to another place. All good. And how much can I, can I like go all in on this relationship to try and bring it with me somehow, because I wasn’t mature enough to like, kind of figure out like how to have a relationship, right?

[00:09:45] Or is it not worth pursuing? And so, you know, I kind of got to a point in my career. I was 15 years in, I had a tumor in my neck that was removed and that was kind of like this, it was almost kind of a wake-up call. It was benign tumor, but it was a wake-up call. Like, what are you doing? Like my dad retired after 31 years, my brother had been in 18 years at a point.

[00:10:05] And I was kind of like this, isn’t what I want to do. Like, I, I sort of had, I built in my head early kind of in my career that like, if I just kinda did what my dad did, right. I can have a success. So career and he did infantry first, he was enlisted. So he did data systems. Then it became an officer infantry in Vietnam.

[00:10:25] And then he switched to computers when he got back from Vietnam. And so I thought I’ll kind of do the same thing, but it didn’t really take away. It didn’t make me happier and finally got to the place where like, you know what, this isn’t what I want to do. I don’t want to go just down this path that is cut out for me.

[00:10:40] Right. I feel like I have to fill in and see how well I didn’t embarrass it. And so, yeah. I decided I’m going to give corporate America shot. I took the plunge. I got out. I interviewed for three places. I should say. I decided to give like civilian life a shot. Cause I interviewed for three places. One was like a large ID company.

[00:10:58] One was the defense contractor that one of my old bosses worked at outside of DC. And then one was to be like a mercenary in Bahrain in the middle East, because I had a contact that I had gone to, we’d gone to the same second year program, in the Marine Corps together. Like, we’d go to the same program.

[00:11:15] And so I was going to do that and I knew like, as cool as mercenary sounded like I will never have a normal life. If I do that, like that’s so far away, kind of from what I want. So I went with a large it company. I got introduced to yoga, like immediately as I got out of the Marine Corps, it just happened to work out.

[00:11:30] I read a football or like a sports illustrated magazine article about it. 

[00:11:34] Mike: [00:11:34] Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on one second. You got introduced to hot yoga. Just coming out of the Marine Corps. You got introduced to hot Yoga. 

[00:11:43] David Richards: [00:11:43] I got, yeah. Yeah. So like the week, the weekend. I gotta hear this. 

[00:11:47] Mike: [00:11:47] Wait, wait, wait, wait, let me sit back.

[00:11:48] I need to hear this cause this is, 

[00:11:52] David Richards: [00:11:52] yeah, I’ve been teaching. I’ve been teaching yoga for 13 years now. So I got, I think it was probably the weekend. So I, my last assignment, the Marines was in Miami and I was doing work in central America. My family was in, North Carolina. So I drove up the, when I got out, I drove up to my family’s place because my job was actually going to be in North Carolina, close to where my family lived, ironically.

[00:12:15] And, I remember getting a sports illustrated article and it was about, I think it was somebody from the Arizona Cardinals, but it was about NFL players using yoga to strengthen their midsections. And obviously in the Marine Corps. Like physical fitness is a staple. Like everybody, it’s just how I’ve lived my life.

[00:12:30] And I thought PT is normal.

[00:12:31] Mike: [00:12:31] It’s it’s not anything unusual. 

[00:12:34] David Richards: [00:12:34] Yeah. So I thought, you know what, I’m going to give yoga, try, like, maybe it’ll help with stretching between lifting weights and stuff. And so like here I am three or four days, like having left the Marine Corps, I take my first yoga class. It was like what we call gentle yoga.

[00:12:48] So there wasn’t a lot of stress, no real sledding. It was kind of weird because like, I was the only guy in the class like, Oh, this is a little alright. But like two days later I took a different class. 

[00:12:59] Mike: [00:12:59] Different. No, no less. It’s a Marine that’s in the class and he’s the only guy, 

[00:13:04] David Richards: [00:13:04] but so like part of it was, I grew up, I spent three years in Japan as a kid and getting exposed to Eastern culture.

[00:13:11] Like in 1979, 1980, and like getting this familiar, this early sort of orientation to samurai or to shadow or to like the beauty of making something beautiful in the act of doing it. like that had a huge influence on like this guy who was becoming a teenager. And I know when I came back to the States, it was so different because none of my friends had that experience, but.

[00:13:35] So I went to a different class, like a couple of days later, I’m like drenched in sweats. And like, how is this happening? Like, how is yoga making me pants? And I’m like, just like a bucket. Right. And, but also it was like, what is it doing to my head? Because something was happening in my head where like, I was becoming more aware of stuff and it was like, Especially like coming out of the military where I didn’t, I wasn’t doing like a ton of email.

[00:14:03] Like I wasn’t living my life by email. Right. And then getting into corporate America where it was like, This deluge of you 

[00:14:10] Mike: [00:14:10] live and die by it? Yeah, it’s a, it’s a, 

[00:14:13] David Richards: [00:14:13] my mind would get quiet when I started going to yoga class and I was like, I gotta do more of this. And so like, I got it, I got completely into it.

[00:14:21] And after year I became an instructor, I started teaching, I co opened a studio with somebody. and that was like a big revelation just to. Like just, just to kind of like, that was sort of the pathway for me to figuring out there’s more to just having this program life that we’re trying to live and you, you build the script out and then go, you know, wait for it to happen.

[00:14:45] It was like, be more, self-aware be more in the moment and see what that gets you. And it’s been one of my favorite discoveries in my life so far. 

[00:14:53] Mike: [00:14:53] So you got out of the Marine Corps, you happened upon this. New mode of PT, if you will, that was affecting you. Like what’s given you some real effect. And then all of a sudden you decided to just jump in headlong and that’s like a, like a whole shift in purpose.

[00:15:11] If you think about it, is that, is that pretty accurate? 

[00:15:14] David Richards: [00:15:14] Yeah, well, and I say headlong, I think for me it felt headlong, but like there were, there were cutoffs too. Like, like I grew up in a like Christian family. And so the idea is even as I was intrigued by the premise of yoga, when I started talking and hearing about getting Nash or Vishnu or Krishna.

[00:15:37] And like you started hearing all this other thing. It’s like, all right, well, hold on. But like, it didn’t stop me from understanding the, like the essential kind of core of yoga, which is idea that there’s a relationship between. The observer of something and the observed, and that’s what we call awareness.

[00:15:54] And the more in tune you become with your awareness, the more you can start to shape your awareness or become one with something, which is sort of what being present is. It’s not where I’m thinking that, you know, this is a bottle or that’s a microphone, it’s, I’m here, we’re talking, and this is the experience.

[00:16:10] And so, so that was super cool, but it also is like, how do I, how do I reconcile this with my faith? And I think at this point for me, it was like, I mean, this is kind of the Dawn of the internet, age and information to age. And like, it was almost like God was sort of passe because now we’re in discovering like, Oh, about the world and stuff.

[00:16:30] so it was kind of a lot to take in, but, I think it was like, there was something that was attracting me to yoga and, and like, I just kept pulling on that thread. I think that’s the best way to describe it. 

[00:16:44] Mike: [00:16:44] Got it. it sounds like that there was a, and I know Marines do this too, and pretty much like special forces.

[00:16:54] It comes to mental clarity and mental focus and things of that nature. in fact, I, if I remember reading once that certain branch of the military actually use like meditation and things of that nature, like the seals, they do their box breathing and calm down and all that kind of stuff. How do you equate that?

[00:17:14] I mean, you’re, you’re looking at it from now a different, again, civilian life versus military life. You had a shift, you had a shift of purpose, you had a shift of focus and now you’re you find yourself more focused on the mental aspect of things, as much as, I mean, there’s still the physical obviously, but I mean, how does that, how does that play out for you?

[00:17:35] Makes sense. 

[00:17:36] David Richards: [00:17:36] I mean, it was a journey, right? It’s a lot of times that’s because. In some ways we have all created patterns and habits in our lives. And that was like, that’s why I didn’t have success with relationships because I had this pattern where I couldn’t move with relationship because it was like, when I move, I’m going to become someone else because I’m going to have a new job and that’s going to be a big part of my personality and that it was still kind of evolving that piece.

[00:17:58] And I think it like the transition was, it was, it was kind of super gradual because I was learning to be a yoga instructor. And then at some point I was applying what I was learning. And so I did get that printed meditation. Like I had meditated coming out of Japan when I was in high school, but it was this very awkward, rudimentary thing where I, like, I was fascinated by Japanese swords.

[00:18:23] And so like, I would go to back then it was like cigar shops for some reason would have like cigar swords. And so, or there’s this place called the Franklin mint in Pennsylvania that would like Butte. Do these replica sorts of like King Arthur or whatever, and that really beautiful sword. So like, I would get a Jew, I had a Japanese sword and I would put it in front of me in the delivering room.

[00:18:43] And this would be like on a Friday night. So my brother’s out, my parents are out doing something. My friends are like partying or whatever. And I’m sitting at home by myself with this Japanese store trying to do something like I wasn’t exactly sure. And I think the piece that yoga really opened up for me was.

[00:19:02] Your mind is a tool like your mind. Isn’t just as vehicle for reaction, you can actually kind of craft it into something that becomes directional becomes purposeful. And I think that was for me, you know, there’s, there’s kind of this whole theme as I look back on things of like, Living a planned life and then being upset when the plan doesn’t go, or you have to adjust when the plan goes off kilter, as opposed to being present in life and having life be an adventure.

[00:19:33] And I think that was the yeah. Shift, but that took a long time. Because again, it’s, it’s one thing to learn how to teach yoga physically. It’s another thing how to talk about yoga, where you can help people understand that you have a relationship between what you focus on. And you can actually choose what you decide to focus on.

[00:19:49] You can choose on focusing on, Oh my gosh, this is a terrible pandemic. And people are dying and there’s political unrest, or you can focus on, I’ve had so much time to reflect and grow as a writer, or like really be a present and appreciating how beautiful nature is, or like just appreciating every day instead of worrying about tomorrow three weeks from now.

[00:20:08] And so it was like, that was a big step, but then you kind of have to like, process. Okay, well, how do I, how do I start to create my mind? To be the tool. I want it to be easy. 

[00:20:17] Mike: [00:20:17] They’re all curious questions. These are all things that are like curiosity based, at least. That’s what I mean. how did, I mean, is that just something that you naturally are, or is that something you also had to develop?

[00:20:31] David Richards: [00:20:31] I think, I think I’ve always been curious. I think it was sometimes the curiosity was like shortsighted. In other words, be like, Oh, that person looks really interesting. I want to get to know them. As opposed to kind of then like, Oh, this person reached out to me, we have a really strong connection. What does that mean?

[00:20:52] And so it kind of gets to this point of, well, like how do you make that more grand? And that’s like the more present you become in what kind of life do I actually want to like, create? Like, what if I really kind of pull everything back and stop thinking about all the things that I’ve committed to, because I think.

[00:21:11] My obligation to that is somehow creating me and just coming back to, okay, who do I really want to be? And when did, like, for me as a writer, it was like, let me get that down on paper, because there’s a power to putting something on paper and having a conversation with yourself that is super, it’s not only enlivening, but it’s also so fulfilling.

[00:21:33] And so that was like, the big piece for me was what you think about matters. And that starts with even like the words that we put together. 

[00:21:39] Mike: [00:21:39] So. Well, that begs the question then what, what would be, what would be the thing that you’re most curious about at least at this point in your life? 

[00:21:50] David Richards: [00:21:50] for me, I think, you know, I’m, I’m working on my third book right now and it’s really been an expert exploration of what is the kind of, what is the truest love story that I can write.

[00:22:03] Nice. And I mean that in this, I made that in both senses of the word in terms of, we think of true love. But we also think of truth and it’s kind of like, it’s almost like I’m using I’m substituting real story or real love for true love. And so it’s like, what’s the truest love story that I can write in a year that we’ve had a pandemic in the year that like my meditation has gotten so much deeper.

[00:22:28] My writing has gotten so much deeper. and so that’s kind of in the exploration and that’s. Like that’s been a beautiful journey. There’s a bit like last, last year it was super hard. Like when things started to shut down, it took some getting used to, it took some adjustment. I had just come out of a relationship, like October of 2019.

[00:22:48] My second book was in the process of being published. And, but for the first time in my life, Michael, I knew coming out of that relationship. I knew whatever’s on the other side was going to be better. And, and part of that was because of what I’d done with my mind. And a lot of that was going to a couple of Tony Robbins events and realizing like, life is going to teach you lessons or give you lessons until you learn them.

[00:23:10] And then you kind of advanced to the next level. And it sounds like life can’t be that orchestrated, but it really is. And that’s like, right. If you believe in infinite intelligence or God and the universe or whatever, Then there’s something there. And you know, for me to hear someone like Tony Robbins, who’s been super ultra successful.

[00:23:28] Talk about the universe talks or speaks to you in different ways, you know, to go to a mastermind with Jack Canfield who sold 500 million books and hear him say, Oh yeah, it was a Roman soldier, you know, 1500 years ago or whatever. You’re like, there’s another level because I have some of that in my own head.

[00:23:46] But to hear people who are really successful say that. Makes me start to think that like, there is universal message out there. And so when I can buy in that idea that there is a universal message with this idea of what’s the ultimate expression of love that I can find, like that’s taken me down this tremendous path of discovery.

[00:24:03] Mike: [00:24:03] Cool. And how far away are from that book? From that question?

[00:24:07] David Richards: [00:24:07] I just posted a picture. It’s an interesting story because I wasn’t even, I entered in February of last year, I entered a book contest. Let me give you the short answer. First I have written, I have in front of me right here. I hear two notebooks and seven or eight journals that I have filled over the last 12 months with either last nine months or 10 months with either versions of the book that I wrote, like short versions.

[00:24:38] Or with just notes and journals and, and it’s probably about six or 700 pages worth of stuff that I’ve handwritten over the last 10 months or so. And so in one sentence, I think, I think the book’s almost done in another sense. I’m not sure I’ve started running it yet, but I still stand by. It’s almost done.

[00:24:58] I just haven’t right. Because what I find is. And this is like, this is super, this is super interesting thing to go into. So I went to a, a mastermind with Jack Canfield in March of last year, and I was going to talk about the light housekeeper, my second book, but it was like, it was in the process of being released.

[00:25:16] And I just had the idea, my third book was going to be called being B E I N G. And it was around this idea that who we are is more important than what we do. And so, but I’d like, I didn’t have, I had, that was all I had, like I had done this pre-order con like on a whim. I got an email about a pre-order campaign and like this contest by this website called publisher.com.

[00:25:38] publishizer.com. And so like on a whim, I entered the contest, even though like I was focused, I was doing PR for my second book and okay. And like, I got enough people to get a pre-order deal done. I had like 12 publishers that are interested. I don’t really like, know what the book is going to be about. So I talked to Jack Canfield about it and.

[00:25:58] Like he’d never met me before. He didn’t know anything about me. And he gives me some advice. If you have never been to a mastermind, you go with a group of like-minded people. And there’s usually someone who leads the mastermind. In this case with Jack Canfield, chicken soup for the soul author, tremendously successful.

[00:26:12] And you pitched him an idea and he kind of tells you about how your idea can be improved. And it’s like this super Uber coaching session kind of thing, but it gives me some pointers and that at the end of it, he says, you’ve got a year. And I was like, okay, what does that mean? 

[00:26:32] Mike: [00:26:32] That means you got a year.

[00:26:35] And so if you’re in a, if you’re in a mastermind, that’s exactly what happens that you end up, you ended up getting a deadline from the group or from the leader, because they 

[00:26:43] David Richards: [00:26:43] it’s like it’s this real experience. And then the other stuff that happened after that was like, like my meditations, like I had like out of body mystical experiences and crazy stuff.

[00:26:54] And, And so I started writing this book by hand and it became like this. I mean, the story was so beautiful and it was basically like, it was just a conversation and it wasn’t like written in a book format. It was almost written like a text converse with two different colored pens. And one pen was unconditional love and the other pen was conditional love.

[00:27:20] And like, so I wrote a couple of versions. I was like, this is super intense. Like I had my mom read it. And she’s like, it took 20 minutes for her to read it, but she was like, I’m so tired of reading this. Like, this is so intense because it was just how it was all structured. It was super kind of meta, I guess, as the kids would say.

[00:27:36] and then I got to a point where I couldn’t write it. Like I couldn’t finish it. Like the story started to get really detailed and it started to have texture and like putting people into it and I couldn’t finish it. And so like after probably three or four weeks of like just sheer frustration, I kind of stepped away from it.

[00:27:53] Yeah. And that actually kind of turned me back toward like my faith. Like what do I believe in like, the story is so deep and faith is such a big part of it. Like, what does that, what have I really believe? And so then at some point I started thinking back to what Jack Canfield said, and you’ve got a year and this was like right around March 20th, March 19th.

[00:28:11] And so I’m like, okay, why don’t you listen to that and figure out what this year means to you. And so. It’s it’s been like, it’s been a, just an incredible journey. And like over the holidays, I took some time off and just kind of wrote without expectation and just kind of journal and just put, and that was super liberating.

[00:28:32] And now that’s become sort of my mode of operating where I just grabbed the journal instead of saying, okay, I’m gonna write chapter one today or whatever this is. I just write, I just write whatever comes down and I’m not editing myself. I’m not saying, Oh, I want to say happy instead of glad, I just kind of let it go.

[00:28:49] And so I know even as the story continues to evolve, like I understand it more and I’m just like, okay, like, let this thing go. And that there is an arch of a writing process and you have to own that process. And so I think at the very least Jack was telling me your writing process is going to take a year.

[00:29:05] I’m like, okay, I got it. 

[00:29:06] Mike: [00:29:06] Yeah, that I can, I can see that’s a part of it. I hear a couple of other things going on too. And one of these days we’ll have to sit down and chat about that as well. and it leads into our next section anyway, which is perfect as you’re starting to talk about what inspires and that’s, that’s our next section.

[00:29:22] So guys, we’re going to take a short quick, 30 second break. We will be right back and we’ll we’ll, we’ll go dig in and. Figure out what drives this, this former Marine other than directives will be right. 


And we’re back here, Java chat and we’re hanging out with, or hanging out with the man Mr. David Richards. Talking a little bit about, we were just talking about his book, and he started getting into kind of what motivates them, what inspires and all of you guys know this is that section.

[00:29:55] We talk about those things. So, he’s also mentioned things about presence. So in and around that, what got you inspired for it? One, the first book and w and what’s the first book about. 

[00:30:09] David Richards: [00:30:09] Yeah. Yeah, no. So when I got out of the Marines, I’d already kind of reignited the writing bug, even though it was just poetry.

[00:30:17] I think maybe I’d tried maybe some short stories, but like poetry was it. And so I always liked Stephen King growing up and I say that because, and his books are invariably almost, always better than the movers always, but it’s because you can get into characters heads and that’s like an actor is portraying that, but when you’re writing.

[00:30:37] Like, if you make a character go crazy. The reader gets told to go along with you and cut cemeteries. 

[00:30:43] Mike: [00:30:43] Very different. It’s very different when you’re, when you’re reading a book versus watching a movie it’s still different. It doesn’t matter. 

[00:30:50] David Richards: [00:30:50] And so like pet cemetery is one of my favorite books and to watch the main character lose creed who starts out as this morally great dad.

[00:30:59] And, you know, ends up digging up his son and putting him in an Indian bear around spoiler alert to bring it back bed is it’s horrific and you get to have a front row seat to watch him do that. And so like, So I wanted to write horror stories and I had a couple ideas. I would write like a hundred pages and then it would kind of Peter out.

[00:31:21] And I was like, ah, and I’d put it aside. And I did that three times. I had three different versions of horror stories. I want you to write each one kind of slightly different. Right. And, and then in 2017, somehow I’d gotten turned on to Napoleon Hill’s think and grow rich. Someone had said, this is the book you gotta read.

[00:31:41] And so. I grabbed it. It was still like the holidays. It’s probably around this time of the year. And, and in the first or second chapter, he says, Hey, what is the purpose of your life? And I was blown away. I was like, what are you talking to? 

[00:31:59] You’re kidding me. It was just like, I was blown away. And so, I wrote a purpose statement. I had a pen and paper and I wrote a purpose statements about like writing stuff. And I think it’s about writing my purpose. Like Sherry long. My purpose in life is to share my purpose in life so people can find their purpose in life.

[00:32:17] And, I started writing whiskey and yoga was my first book. I started writing that in January of 2017. I would get up every morning and I think I started getting up like at four o’clock in the morning. So I could like do a little meditation, cold shower and then be writing by like four, or five o’clock.

[00:32:33] Yeah. And I wrote like 200 pages of an autobiography. And, it was like April of 2017. And I’m like, you know what, no one is going to give a rat’s butt about some dude finding his purpose in life. In his mid, late forties. I got like, I got to scrap this and I got to do a self-improvement book, a self-help book.

[00:32:54] And so I took the 200 pages. I put it aside. I did a 10 chapter outline for whisking and yoga, helping you know, how to find your purpose. Yep. And I wrote it in two months and then I had, I’d already kind of worked with, I’ve found someone who going to help me publish it. We’re going to do a launch campaign for, you know, bestseller status.

[00:33:13] And, I did that in October of 2017, number one in Amazon, two categories. you know, so obviously international bestseller, super excited by it. And it was, you know, and that was a big, I don’t look back at that book and think it was a great book because. I was getting over the mental hurdle of, can I write a book?

[00:33:33] Can I actually write something and publish it? And I got over that hurdle and then it was, it was neat that it had the success. And I remember like I had, I had a 42 year old bottle of scotch that I opened up when it went to number one. And like I had some of that scotch. That was so great. How does it look like what’s next?

[00:33:53] And, and, and part of the feedback I’d gotten from it was. It’s good if you’ve got the book, but then you have to have something behind it. You have to have like either workshops or something. That’s going to get you like to speak to people or to conduct stuff with people too. 

[00:34:08] Mike: [00:34:08] The book, the books, just an entry.

[00:34:09] And then it just, it just begins to introduce you as a, an actual mode, if you will, to others, that vibe with it, that, that get it. And they’re like, ah, yeah, what he said. That’s kind, kinda that kind of thing. And so go ahead. 

[00:34:26] David Richards: [00:34:26] Well, I was going to say it was like 2017 was such a transformational year because for me it was, it was running the purpose statement.

[00:34:35] It was trying to write the book. And then I remember, I think in March I get an email from Tony Robbins, like from team Tony Robbins, and it was about. attending one of his workshops, at least the power within and like the money for like a seat near the stage. Like, I mean, there are some seats that are like $50,000, whatever, and I’m not considering those, like, there’s one, that’s like 3000 or whatever.

[00:34:57] And my mindset was, that’s a ridiculous amount of money to spend for that. But then there’s this little voice that said. We’ve never done something like that. This guy obviously knows what he’s talking about. Let’s go do it. And so I put down money, I went to one of his events in July, blown away, like completely like the stuff that you go through, this kind of spiritual, like not only just awakening, but spirit, like you kind of tear your soul open and be like, what is this?

[00:35:25] What is the stuff that I am holding myself back because of what I believe about my life and. It was, it showed me in some ways the power of belief, because in some ways it’s also the prison of belief. Like what you believe in your life is a prison. And so, you know, he has these incredible tools that he helps people kind of break out of their own prison.

[00:35:46] And that was so big. I became a strength coach. I became a certified professional coach in 2017, and then I finished the year going to another one of his events that with destiny in Florida. And again, You know, part of me was reluctant because I’m like, how much is this going to be the same of what unleash the power within was?

[00:36:05] And it was completely different experience, completely different in terms of how it was set up, the relationships you make with people, the information you cover, you, you know, you look at your values, you look at all this stuff. And so like, this was me sort of like tearing off all this dead me. That was the person who was going to play it safe.

[00:36:24] And who’s going to plan this life out and just kind of sit back and cruise control and not really like start to like be involved and engaged my life. And that was like, you know, what I’m going to write writing is what I love to do. I’ll figure out how to communicate value to people, you know, whether it’s speaking or whatever.

[00:36:40] But I think that the next book, the lighthouse keeper, which I wrote. In, in 2019 was really about how do I master my mind? Like, how do I, how do I get to a place where I can control what I’m thinking about or what I want to think about instead of having these patterns that somehow I can’t break it. 

[00:36:57] Mike: [00:36:57] So without, without, without going too far into it, because obviously we’re going to want to post that book so people can go read this and learn it themselves.

[00:37:04] In a, in a, in a brief, how does one master one’s own mind? Cause that, I mean, that’s always a question that every human has. They may not, they may not blatantly ask it, but it’s in there. How does one actually do that? Because you’re, you’re talking about, you’re talking about a lot of minds that are literally locked hypnotically to messaging.

[00:37:26] That’s been put out over the last few years and you have. You have you, 

[00:37:37] David Richards: [00:37:37] part of it is you got to break out of the matrix and I know that sounds so jaded and it’s counter Reeves, but it’s absolutely true. And there’s this like big momentum in the shift, this current where culture goes, there’s nothing wrong with being aware of that, but you don’t have to be in it.

[00:37:54] And for me, it comes down to mastermind comes down to okay, first. What is my relationship to my mind because a lot of people think, well, I am my mind. I am my mind and my body. And if anything, yoga has taught me is no, you’re not. Your mind is when you interact with this world and your body has kind of a history of your interactions with his world.

[00:38:17] But there’s absolutely something behind that. And that’s why like there’s the self and the self is some divine piece of you. And once you start to understand that relationship and that’s really what the second book is about is this idea that it’s called the lighthouse keeper. Your mind is an ocean. And your awareness of the lighthouse and through the practice of, again, meditation focus willpower, you can start to shape where your awareness goes in your mind.

[00:38:43] And I tell that through a story. but that’s the big piece of it. And you know, people today in this day and age are so hell bent on instant gratification. And like I’ve heard people write and say like, Oh, I tried to write, but if it’s not perfect, I’m not going to do it. I’m like, well then you’re not a writer.

[00:39:02] Because writers write it doesn’t matter. The quality of what you put out, you have to, you have to kind of go through that process. You have to, you know, I have to write 300 pages of stuff I’m never going to use because now I have a better sense of how to put words together. That makes an impact that communicates an idea and does it in a way that people find compelling and they want to read more.

[00:39:21] And so you have to kind of come back to. Okay. If my mind is this internal thing and there’s a self behind it, then if I can start to understand the relationship between the self, the body and the mind, then I can start to direct things and I can start to control my mind. And there is, you know, especially, I think even though I think you’re right in a lot of ways, there’s been a lot in the last few years that says there’s the cultural conditioning is, has gotten stronger.

[00:39:50] But there are tools out there for meditation, you know, Dr. Joe Dispenza in his book becoming supernatural is completely next level. Like he has figured out the pineal gland third eye, how to bring your awareness out of your body. Like he has done that in like rock solid fashion. And like, I can certainly say I’m a believer because the stuff I’ve done with his meditation is next level.

[00:40:14] It’s interesting to see that. Slowly that the awareness of how powerful human kind actually is, is, is slowly coming to light it’s and I think it’s, I think it’s, it has become because of, again, everything that’s going on in the world, period, that human kind is going. Yeah, something’s wrong here. There’s there’s something else, a foot, and maybe there’s something to what all of these gurus and yogis and everything everybody are saying.

[00:40:54] I’ve been in and around that realm for many years. we started learning about it when I was in massage therapy back in Hawaii. I, I come from a culture that believes in more than just us, and that there are other levels, so to speak of, of being. And over time, having learned from other cultures as well, that have that same awareness, that same presence, if you will.

[00:41:21] and being able to see things that you’re not supposed to see, no things that you would normally wouldn’t know and be able to, and be able to literally go. Hmm. Okay. So that’s why that’s happening and really, and really get it. I mean, like there’s. I think for the most part, for those that don’t have that connection, trauma is much more, they’re much more susceptible to trauma, or traumatic events in their lives, versus those who understand that those traumatic events.

[00:41:58] Are purposeful events. Like you said, life, hands us a whole bunch of lessons. How will you handle this trauma? How will you handle this event? How will you handle, you know, when the, when the universe, when you ask the universe for something and the universe goes, let’s just make sure if that’s really what they want him a shot.

[00:42:17] And then all of a sudden it’s like, well, why is the world against me? No. Well, it’s not against you. You’re just not paying attention. I think a lot. I think a lot of that still going on too. 

[00:42:28] David Richards: [00:42:28] Well, I think part of it is, and I think one of the big takeaways I took from Tony, and it sounds weird, but you need to organize your mind.

[00:42:34] And what I mean by that is it’s true. You got to look at like, what do you value? What do you believe? And it was so, you know, Michael, it was so incredible. I think on our first day in this thing I did in December of 2017 with him, it was in Florida. And he brought this Indian gentleman up on stage and the guy is his first thing was, there were like 5,000 people.

[00:42:57] He said in the past 30 days, how many people have contemplated suicide, like right up and like 18 or 19 people raised their hand. And he said generally in a group of size of about 20 people. And so he brings a guy up on stage and the guy was like a doctor in India had found a cure for brain cancer. Wow.

[00:43:19] Okay. Like had done this. And then I guess like it become disenchanted because like, what else was he going to do with his life after he found a cure for brain cancer? So he got really depressed, got on all these antidepressants. His brother had talked to him and talked him into flying from India. Like on Saturday that, you know, the previous Saturday he lands in the U S on Sunday.

[00:43:40] And now he’s talking to Tony Robbins on Monday and the guy had taken out life insurance policy. He was to, this was December of 2017. He was going to kill himself to set new year’s Eve. And so his family be in the life insurance policy. And like, it came down to one of the things that know Tony asked him was what do you value?

[00:43:56] What’s the most important thing in your life? And the guy’s like integrity. I go, Hey, he’s like, what are your, what are your rules for integrity? And the guy’s like, well, I always have to tell the truth and I can never like tell a lie or something like that. I’m simplifying it. But it was like Tony pointed out to me.

[00:44:13] You can’t live your life in absolutes. If you say you’re never going to tell a lie, is that true? If you like to make the bed and your wife comes in, it’s like, Oh, did you forget to make the bed? And you like lie about or something? Well, now you’re lying and you’ve broken your integrity thing. And so it was this and I’m simplifying what probably took place over 45 minutes to an hour and a half.

[00:44:36] By the end of this time, this guy was dancing and like he was super happy. And you realize that you, you saw his mind was unlocked because like you have to think about what you value. Do you have to think about what you believe and you have to be aware of what are the things that I value that may be, or the rules that I have that maybe harming me, like, what are the things I value that are taking me down a path where I either get frustrated, angry or whatever else.

[00:45:02] And so. That was like a huge wake-up call that like you, you kind of getting it straight on who you are and what you believe. And when you do that, then you kind of empower yourself to take more control and gain more of yourself back. And I think so many of us, because we’re either trying to please other people, or we’re distracted with life, we give away our energy and we give away our awareness.

[00:45:24] And that’s why we get frustrated because we’ve sort of. Giving ourselves away instead of taking ownership for ourselves.

[00:45:29] Mike: [00:45:29] Yeah. I think that happens more often than not. I mean, if, if you look at the condition again, condition of the world right now, even, even within those actual communities that are supposed to be that kind of aware.

[00:45:42] There’s still a lot of, there’s still a lot of that going on. There’s still a lot of mental lacking, if you will. where most people think this happens just with entrepreneurs. I’m like, yeah, no, it happens with everyone. I don’t care what age you are. I don’t care what profession you’re in. I don’t care.

[00:45:58] What part of the world you’re in. This is a human condition. This is not it. This is, this is the one. Disease that is non-discriminatory and will follow you anywhere. You cannot, you cannot escape it, but you can defeat it by, like you said, recognizing your values, understanding your beliefs and reclaiming what is yours.

[00:46:26] And that’s huge. So, Good call on how to mastermind. That’s I think that’s a, I think that’s a really nice way of laying that out. well, that, that begs the point to what’s. What would be then in your own mind, what would be the biggest thing you’ve learned up to this point about anything? Whether that’s you life or what have you?

[00:46:51] David Richards: [00:46:51] Oh, man, I felt like, I feel like 12 months ago, this have been such an easy question to answer. I think it’s it’s that, I think is that there is like, in some sense, you know, we have all these different beliefs about why we’re here or how we even came to be here. And there’s the scientific explanation that somehow the university just randomly popped up and billions of stars and this big bang and all this stuff happened.

[00:47:20] And then there’s various aspects of religion and. I think for me, especially over the course of the past year and the book I’m writing, I’ve, I’ve come to the place where I realized there was one truth that brings us all together. And if you call, if you want to call that God or divinity or infinite intelligence, but that’s part of what my story is about this, this book I’m writing is the story of what this one truth is.

[00:47:48] And. Like, I’m not saying that I’m the authority on it, but I’m saying the story that I’m writing is giving me great signs that I can, I can make demonstrable proof of what I’m saying, and it’s going to be a really beautiful love story. And I think that’s ultimately, you know, when you’re talking about a pandemic, I don’t, we haven’t talked about the great conjunction.

[00:48:07] If you heard about Saturn and Jupiter right before Christmas and like the star of David and stuff, restart Bethlehem, But like, there is there, like there is a universal truth and in some ways, like, it’s beautiful to appreciate that. And even though we’ve all had to go through this pandemic and people lost their lives, people put sick, the unrest in our country is like amazing to, to see where it is.

[00:48:33] but in some ways that’s just like, okay, well, what do you believe? Like, do you believe that all this bad stuff is happening and like the world’s about to collapse in, on itself? Or do you believe something else? Like something right. This may happen. But, and like, there’s this beauty to kind of looking at love and looking at faith and seeing how they intertwine.

[00:48:51] And so that’s like for me, the long-winded answer, but I think it’s, I guess if I could summarize it, I absolutely convinced there is one universal truth that brings all of us together. 

[00:49:02] Mike: [00:49:02] I like, I like that last part, that that’s, that answer is cool. And it’s something that I’ve always advocated for it. And all those friends that know me very much are they know, I don’t like to get into the arguments.

[00:49:19] cause honestly the only argument that there is in my, I am Aho in my humble opinion. the only valid argument is for love because I mean, everything else is. Is destructive. There’s, there’s nothing creative in anything else outside of that. I mean, I can create a new world with, with, with hate. Yeah, you can, and it will continuously collapse.

[00:49:45] It will continuously implode. It will continuously break down. Or that happens with love too. That depends. How often do you choose it? How often do you believe it? Is it an actual value? Is it a real value in, in you? Not just your head, but in, you know, that whole thing about being present, and, and, and, and living with purpose, you know, it’s not, it’s not necessarily about living in the moment.

[00:50:16] Does that, does that make sense? 

[00:50:18] David Richards: [00:50:18] Yeah, no, it absolutely does. Yeah, because like people, I think when people think about living in the moment, it’s like in a lot of ways, it’s like, well, I want to create like the super great moment and then go live in it. Well, Then what are you doing? Like in between that, like, you’re, you’re struggling, whatever, like exactly.

[00:50:37] If you’re, if you’re present and you’re like, yeah, I’ve got a plan, but right now I have to do this. And then like, I’ll know when I have time to work on my plan or work on my next book or whatever the case may be. And it’s not like any, any time you have want. You’re creating separation. Yeah. Like the more you want something, the more separate you are from it.

[00:50:56] I mean, that’s just like, that’s like the kid at Christmas who wants, like, you know, that’s the Christmas story where what’s his name once the air rifle or whatever, the pellet gun and. Yeah. 

[00:51:07] Mike: [00:51:07] And still eventually shoots his eye out. Anyhow, there, there goes this moment. 

[00:51:15] David Richards: [00:51:15] That’s right. But that’s a great, I mean, that’s a great analogy, right?

[00:51:17] Like he wanted that he wanted it. Like, that was his thing. That was his thing. And she had that life was going to be. Sublime is going to be next level. And then it gets, it pops his eye out and okay. It’s not that great. And yeah, so it’s, that’s a great analogy. Autonomy one, since we’re just coming out of the 

[00:51:34] Mike: [00:51:34] holidays and w the best part about that is his, the resolve afterwards, though, that he realizes that that moment wasn’t that important.

[00:51:41] Yeah, absolutely. That it was more about. The whole situation and everything that, that goes with it. I think more people paid more attention to that. They’d probably be a little more cognizant of what’s actually happening and where they can actually be a contributor rather than a detractor. So that makes sense.

[00:51:59] Hey guys, we’re going to take another 30 second break and we’re going to come back and figure out what’s next. Cause a lot of this has been great stories from the past, but I’m excited to hear what’s going to come next. So, but 30 seconds we’ll be right back. I just realized that I just said one. I can’t believe I just did that.

[00:52:18] That’s hilarious. 


We’re back here with 

[00:52:25] David Richards, counting backwards, just so he can get back into the podcast. sucks. So obviously you’re working on the book, brother. We kind of talked a little bit about that up on the front side. Is there anything else going on? I mean, like, are you, are you going to be. Speaking anywhere, or are you doing any other shows?

[00:52:42] People can come to follow you and hear more about what what’s going down?

[00:52:45] David Richards: [00:52:45] Yeah, I think, I think this book is going to be the pathway to speak more because I think when the message of this book comes out, it’s something that people are going to want to understand. And I think that’s going to require speaking.

[00:53:01] It’s not to say that the book itself won’t be complete, but how I wrote the book. I mean, that’s going to be kind of the part of the journey to itself. So that’s a big piece, but honestly, you know, and like I have plans, I want to move back. I want to move back. I moved to the UK, because, I’ve really enjoyed, I’ve had some great interviews and great magazine articles done in the UK.

[00:53:23] I’ve had advice to come over there and speak. And so, obviously the pandemic. Is a, is a, a reality that we all have to deal with. But I think once the pandemic we get through that, and once this book comes out, then I’m certainly gonna do more speaking. and that just likes to talk about the book, because like I said, the story is so beautiful and I can’t wait to share it with people, but, it’s also a journey to get there.

[00:53:47] So, 

[00:53:47] Mike: [00:53:47] I’m interested in the whole, the whole unconditional versus conditional love, angle I’m, Obviously, when it comes out, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta let us know when it comes out so we can order one. Cause it’s definitely a, yeah, I would imagine it’s trippy. I mean, you’re talking about, you’re talking about an actual conversation between two different kinds of love.

[00:54:11] David Richards: [00:54:11] Well, and it’s interesting and I’ll say this just to kind of tease it a little bit more, Because in my mind, when I first started writing the book again, it was the premise that who we are is more important than what we do. Right. And so what I found was the unconditional love voice became the voice of reason, kind of, kind of the, the wisdom, if you will.

[00:54:33] And that was who we are. Right. And the conditional love voice very much became you gotta, you gotta, you know, break a few eggs to make an omelet kind of thing. And. And became the voice of, yeah. Struggle is hard, but when you try them, you learn and it’s a great thing. And so I found myself realizing that the conditional love and a lot of ways represented the male journey that hero’s journey of, you know, the external struggle.

[00:55:03] It’s Braveheart, it’s gladiator, it’s, you know, take your pick any one of those movies we see where they like it’s iron man and Tony, you know, Avengers and. And the other voice, the unconditional love voice was really kind of the feminine journey that the heroine’s journey, which is an inside journey, which is this kind of internal instead of, instead of struggling outward, I have to journey inward to come to myself.

[00:55:26] And so that kind of surprised me because at one point. Like I said, I thought that the feminine voice would kind of win until the male voice, like this masculine voice said, well, no, but you have to, like, you have to strive. Like you have to create this struggle because that’s how like, evolution sort of happens.

[00:55:43] And when like that, I remember when that conversation happened and I kind of got to that place. I was like, Holy crap. Like, that’s not that it kind of blows my apotheosis out of the water, what was going to be about this? And now I gotta go in a completely different direction, but it was also, that was exciting because it was like, wow.

[00:55:59] I prove something wrong. Like in this theory that I had created about like what this book was going to be about. So that was super, super cool. I think it’s really going to be beautiful. People are going to be amazed at how beautiful story it is. 

[00:56:12] Mike: [00:56:12] Science of love. I, I heard somebody once and I can’t remember where tell us, say that science is a bunch of theories that man has continually tried to prove, but never really been able to.

[00:56:30] So while we, while we say this is what we think is going on, and then it becomes a law and all of a sudden, what have we been hearing lately? Some of the things in us, in astronomy, they’ve been finding contradictions to the very laws that they believe were absolute. So you’re, you’re, you’re putting a challenge out there.

[00:56:47] My friend, you’re putting a challenge to the science. 

[00:56:51] David Richards: [00:56:51] I mean, but, but that’s just, it, you know, it’s so funny because people think when they hear about the law of gravity or the speed of light. They think that those are things that we created and we didn’t, we didn’t, we identified them. We identify like we did identify that stuff.

[00:57:05] So that, that, like, it gives you the sense that we’ll because we’ve put the shape on it and call it the law of gravity. It’s ours. 

[00:57:14] Mike: [00:57:14] No, it’s not ours. An iota. That’s so hilarious that somebody was sitting there. I was just talking about math too. It’s like, let’s make something clear. We didn’t come up with Matt.

[00:57:24] We discovered it doesn’t belong to us because somebody else made it. 

[00:57:30] David Richards: [00:57:30] And that, you know, and it’s so funny because we talked about this. You talked about this earlier, like. We can create our own universes and like, I’m going to choose, you can see the pictures behind me, huge Marvel fan. I like love DC too, waiting for them to see like how they pulled us all together.

[00:57:43] But like, We think it’s so cool. And so commonplace that like there’s a Marvel cinematic universe or there’s the extended universe or there’s Lord of the rings or there’s star Wars. And we’re like, Oh, it’s so cool that people have created these universes. And yet for a lot of people, the idea that some entity created this universe that we live in is so outlandish.

[00:58:08] Right? Well, that can’t be possible because like, no, and it’s like really. We’ve created so many universes as people. I got to think if there’s a higher power, it’s not that hard to create a universe that is full of people. 

[00:58:20] Mike: [00:58:20] So like hilarious too, is how developed some of those universes actually are, Oh my God.

[00:58:28] Beyond comic books, beyond fandom, beyond fan fiction and all that. I mean, I was just watching, somebody yesterday do a series on. A star Wars character called Darth Raven, who was actually a Jedi Knight and went into this whole thing about war and how he got his mask and all this kind of I’m sitting here going.

[00:58:52] Yeah. But you guys can’t believe in, in, in a higher being that created our universe. Oh, okay. That’s it? Yeah. 

[00:59:00] David Richards: [00:59:00] Like people believe in the forest. Like there are people who practice being jeopardized like around the world. Like they have lightsabers, 

[00:59:06] Mike: [00:59:06] it’s a real, it’s a real. 

[00:59:09] David Richards: [00:59:09] But then people are like, Ugh, religion, NOI.

[00:59:11] And I get it. Part of it. Religions got a bad rap. And what are you talking about that? 

[00:59:15] Mike: [00:59:15] What do you think bougie? 

[00:59:17] David Richards: [00:59:17] It’s so funny. So like, like I grew up in the eighties, like I grew up on Motley Crue, D O O Z. And in one sense, it was like, Oh, that’s devil music. And I remember like tipper Gore, 

[00:59:31] Mike: [00:59:31] they even know that Alice Cooper is a die hard Christian.

[00:59:35] David Richards: [00:59:35] Well, it’s so funny because like you just do some video stuff. Yeah. Like, do you mean bawling from, I think the last in line, it says we’re all born upon a cross. And basically what he’s saying is like everybody’s sinned and fall short of like God and yeah. Don’t like point a finger at me, just because I’m thinking about it.

[00:59:53] And you, like, I remember like when explicit lyric cotton river, when those things came out on CDs and stuff, and the government was saying like, that music’s bad, but meanwhile, the government’s like taking money under the table or preachers like Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker were a big thing. Like still 

[01:00:07] Mike: [01:00:07] those two are hilarious.

[01:00:08] I’m sorry. But that was, that was probably the funniest swagger. It should be in particular. He was sorry, 

[01:00:17] David Richards: [01:00:17] but it’s crazy because you realize. Like those bands, like, even with all that anger and angst, we’re just singing about the hypocrisy of a system that created them, or 

[01:00:28] Mike: [01:00:28] actually trying to warn a few of them.

[01:00:31] If you listen to the lyrics, they’re literally warning you to not take that side. So while it was while it was crazy Marsh, piton all over the place. They weren’t really listening to the lyrics. It was hitting their subconscious, but I mean, it was a warning of you don’t want to be here. You don’t want to be a part of that.

[01:00:53] when, when the song American idiot came out with green day, they were, they were like, literally dumped on by conservatives going on. They hate America, they hate this. They hate that. And I listened to the lyrics and I went, that’s not what that song is about. They’re trying to warn people that the media is literally trying to hypnotize the whole country.

[01:01:15] Yeah. And it’s working. Nobody, nobody caught that. And that was just like, cause when I first started, I was just like, Oh, how dare you? And I listened to the lyrics and I’m like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Time out. Hold on, hold on. Oh, wait a minute. There’s something else going on here? Yeah, I think, I think this book. At least by the way you’re describing it.

[01:01:35] This book is going to open doors and hopefully a shit ton of them because it’s needed. It’s going to open doors in people’s minds that they’ll look inside and go, Ooh, that doesn’t look nice. I need to go clean that room out because the unconditional sidewalk come in and go. Yeah. 

[01:01:56] David Richards: [01:01:56] You know, a little bit of dusting, maybe a little bit of cleaning might be necessary. That’s what I’m hearing. I’m 

[01:02:05] glad. Right. And I think that’s like, like the subtitle for the book before I was going to call it being how to win the game of your life. And then I was actually at a bookstore last weekend, and I don’t know if you know who rom Doss is. He’s like a spiritual teacher, but he came out with a book called being and I’m like, all right.

[01:02:21] Yeah. And that wasn’t like, I wasn’t like th the story has grown so much since then. Like, my title’s moved on now. I don’t know what it is yet, but, but it was weird because at one point I’m like, well, how do you win the game, your life? And I, at one point, I remember, like I re I remember writing this in an early version.

[01:02:38] Like you are guaranteed to win. Michael, how can I make that kind of guarantee? And what does that, what does that mean? I go by Jack Canfield thing and that’s part of what the year has been like, okay. Here’s how you win the game of your life. And so, yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s going to be, it’s going to be a lot for people, but it’s also going to be super beautiful.

[01:02:55] And if you, if you know, it has a happy ending, then, like that’s the, that’s the greatest part of it 

[01:03:01] Mike: [01:03:01] opening the locked doors. Yeah. Yeah. That’s going to be interesting. You’ll you’ll get that answer. Isn’t a belief. Yeah. Yeah. Get out of the gray bar hotel in your own mind. That’s right. 

[01:03:16] David Richards: [01:03:16] Yeah. That’s literally what  it is.

[01:03:17] Mike: [01:03:17] Cool. where can people find you? Do you like, we got to guys, you guys know we’re going to put all of these links, but I always put this in here anyway, because those are, who are listening. Where can people find you. 

[01:03:29] David Richards: [01:03:29] Yeah. So, David Richards, author.com go out there, check out my blog, check out. there’s other podcasts that we put on and there are certainly, we’re going to put this one on there.

[01:03:37] I’m subscribed to the newsletter. If you like. Dave Richards author on social media and then Facebook like Instagram and Twitter, David Richards, author, and then whiskey and yoga on Facebook. If you want to check out whiskey and yoga. Oh, yeah. 

[01:03:50] Mike: [01:03:50] Well, now that you said whiskey, I’m definitely checking that one out that way.

[01:03:54] Everybody that knows me knows I have this thing about Ryan. It’s it’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s a thing these days, even though I’m still a coffee. That’s all right. It’s all good. All right, guys. So, you know, you’ll see all the links down below. you’ll have to send us links to the other books that you have published too.

[01:04:09] If you don’t mind. We’ll go ahead and put that in. Great. If you’re watching on YouTube, feel free to go ahead and answer, ask questions down below. He will get the links to this, and if he has time, he’ll come here. You want to really catch him, go follow him where he just said, go follow him, you know, pop into his blog, pop into a social.

[01:04:28] I’m sure he’s active there. if you’re watching on YouTube, make sure you you’re subscribed. If you’re not subscribed yet, hit that. And remember the bell tells you when we get another killer killer guests like this on the Java chat, come, people come and hanging out with us. If you’re listening on any of the podcasting platforms, we’re now on 13 of them.

[01:04:51] David Richards: [01:04:51] That’s awesome. 

[01:04:53] Mike: [01:04:53] Thank you, anchor for syndicating, us to 11 and then two more popped up. Not long after that. So it’s so cool. Yeah, it’s, it’s, I’m just really happy that it’s happening. which means you can find us on places like Spotify. If you’re not already listening to us there, obviously I, Apple podcasts, Google play podcasts, et cetera, et cetera.

[01:05:15] download them. Subscribe. If you’re on those platforms, that’s cool. If you’re on anchor.fm, you can always support us there. You know, every little bit helps. We’re just a small little place, but, it is see a lot more of these kinds of amazing people coming in here and sharing their insights, sharing their wisdom and their knowledge.

[01:05:31] So a huge, thank you, sir. Poor jumping in and I didn’t, I mean, sir, with all respect, not military, but man, this was cool. Thank you for coming.

[01:05:39] David Richards: [01:05:39] Thank you, Michael. It’s been a pleasure. Thank you so much. I really appreciate your it. 

[01:05:43] Mike: [01:05:43] Awesome. So. You guys know how we loved it, and these love every single one of you.

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